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Christie Applauds Sandy Aid Approval; Waiting for Remaining $50 Billion

The U.S. House of Representatives approved an initial round of funding for the National Flood Insurance Program. Another $50 billion could come Jan. 15.

 

Gov. Chris Christie, in a joint statment with New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo, applauded the "critical" Sandy aid approval by the House of Representatives Friday, but said the $9.7 billion outlay is merely a "down payment."

"While we are pleased with this progress, today was just a down payment and it is now time to go even further and pass the final and more complete, clean disaster aid bill," they said.

The U.S. House of Representatives approved a measure Friday afternoon allowing the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) to borrow $9.7 billion to pay insurance claims made by victims of Hurricane Sandy.

The bill, HR 41, temporarily increases the borrowing authority of FEMA to allow the agency to carry out payment claims made by property owners to the National Flood Insurance Program.

Congress is expected to vote on two additional bills authorizing more than $50 billion in Sandy aid on Jan. 15.

"We are trusting Congress to act accordingly on Jan. 15 and pass the final ($50 billion) instrumental for long-term rebuilding in order for New Jersey, New York and our people to recover after the severe devastation of Hurricane Sandy," Christie and Cuomo said.

Congress moved to approve the funding stop-gap Friday after concerns were raised that aid for Sandy victims had been delayed too long. The House, specifically, Majority Speaker John Boehner, R-OH, came under fire for tabling a Sandy aid package until after the New Year.  

The insurance aid bill was introduced by Rep. Scott Garrett, R-5, along with 19 co-sponsors, all of them Representatives from either New Jersey or New York.

According to Bloomberg, the measure passed 354-67. The 67 who voted against the bill are all Republicans. 

Rep. Chris Smith, R-4, one of the bill's co-sponsors, took to the floor of Congress Friday to urge his fellow Representatives to support the legislation. 

"The devastation unleashed by Sandy is without precedent and the impacted communities are in dire need of comprehensive assistance," he said. "Nowhere is this more evident than in the sheer magnitude of the housing damage and the subsequent housing need."

According to Gov. Christie, New Jersey suffered more than $37 billion in property damage following Sandy. According to Christie's office, Smith said, Sandy damaged or destroyed 346,000 housing unites throughout the state, of which more than 72,000 were covered by the NFIP. 

Smith said only 18 percent of those who have filed claims have received money thus far. 

Local Congressional leaders, both Republican and Democrats alike, joined Christie and New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo in voicing their displeasure over the delay in aid for Sandy victims. Christie in particular had harsh words for Congress, saying Sandy victims had been played like pawns in a political game and that the delay in voting on the funding package was the result of toxic politics within the Republican party.

About this column: News and essential information about Hurricane Sandy in New Jersey. Related Topics: Hurricane Sandy

Jay Gee

4:06 pm on Friday, January 4, 2013

FIGURES THAT 67 VOTE AGAINS WERE FROM REPUBLICANS..... :)

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Ann Powers

9:13 am on Saturday, January 5, 2013

Do U know why they voted against?

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Jay Gee

2:55 am on Sunday, January 6, 2013

NO, WHY WOULD THEY? I GUESS THEY NEED THE MONEY FOR THEMSELVES TO PAY THE TAXES THEY JUST HAD TO AGREE TO...WHAT OTHER REASON COULD THEY HAVE?

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Enuf Already

9:10 am on Sunday, January 6, 2013

Figures that a democrat (Schummer) would try to take advantage of a humanitarian bill for his own gain to cause the bill to be so ladened with pork that any responsible congressman would not and should not want to vote for it. Should a bill that is directed at rebuilding the lives of so many (now) homeless people include funds for fishery replenishment in Alaska? Are you kidding me? Get your head out of your butt!

impeach1

4:44 pm on Friday, January 4, 2013

crybabbies. Kindly forward the information you have received, verbatim, with regard to the "extra crap" Certainly with your connections you could enlighten us all. I will reserve judgement on your post upon receipt of the information.

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Robert Yates

4:55 pm on Friday, January 4, 2013

I would like Governor Christie to get out his copy of the Constitution and find the clause in Article I; Section 8 that permits Congress to spend one dime on geographically isolated disaster relief. And please do not cite the general welfare clause. That can only be read as a preamble of sorts, otherwise the subsequently enumerated items that Congress is permitted to spend money on would be completely superfluous as they would have already been permitted under the general welfare clause. As cold as it might seem, the federal government has no constitutionally permissible role to play in Sandy relief. The governor is asking congress to violate the constitution and is congratulating them for doing so. Charity is a function of the private sector, not the government.

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George

5:56 pm on Friday, January 4, 2013

It's been done since 1927, for disasters all around the US -- tornadoes, earthquakes, hurricanes, etc. That's what Americans do for each other in time of dire need. No one has ever won a suit based on your interpretation of the Constitution, Yates.

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Mister B

6:25 pm on Friday, January 4, 2013

Mr. Yates, perhaps you've heard of a little government agency called FEMA -- Federal Emergency Management Agency? You can thank President Carter for creating FEMA under executive orders. Their primary mission at FEMA is to coordinate efforts of disaster response when local and state governments are overwhelmed by the scope of the disaster. As long as the governor of an affected area declares a state of emergency and requests the help of FEMA, the government is authorized to funnel cash into the hands of the locals. So it's not really Congress spending anything, but Congress does have to authorize FEMA's budget and finance it as well. Therefore...

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Tim

6:50 pm on Friday, January 4, 2013

Robert
you seem like a bitter man
where is your outrage at the Bush admin?
you know the war based on lies?
pork from republicons
you know most of the 47% ers are from red welfare states

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Jay Gee

7:58 pm on Friday, January 4, 2013

@TIM.....................................DITTO!

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proud

10:12 pm on Saturday, January 5, 2013

Well @ Robert Yayes , congress has a procedural as well as substantive ability to uphold the social , economic and humanitarian well being of American citizens within or without of their constituencies, if there is such a thing.

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Skitch

6:46 pm on Monday, January 7, 2013

@ Robert Yates. I own a home at the shore. The house was completely trashed by the storm. I have 4 walls and a roof on the house left. The inside is completely gutted along with my contents a total loss. I also carry flood insurance and pay a hefty premuim to do so. It is now 9 weeks since the storm came through and i have been waiting 9 weeks for a check. I have not been paid because there is no money left i presume to pay the claims. Although there are a lot of people who do not carry insurance who have already been paid. I am being penalized because this is a 2nd home for me. Yet I am the one who paid the premuim to have the flood coverage on my house while the others paid nothing and are getting paid. Where is the justice in that? The flood insurance program (NFIP) is run by the federal government. The federal govt took my premiums in exchange for a flood policy. I am entitled to be paid and so is everyone else out there who paid a premuim for flood insurance. Yet here we are still waiting for our claim checks. The federal govt owes me to put my house back to the way it was prior to the storm. This is the purpose of insurance. This is the reason i have a flood policy. All those with flood insurace are paid out of the same pot of money that Christie is asking for. So let me ask you what did the govt do with the money that they should have had in reserve to pay for my claim? They spent it way before the storm even hit.

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mtwnres

10:05 am on Tuesday, January 8, 2013

@Skitch - it's wrong what they are doing to you.

But this is exactly why the government shouldn't be involved in something that should be left up to private enterprise.

Monk

5:06 pm on Friday, January 4, 2013

Why do people imagine the government is like some sort of Sam's Club or Costco where you pay a membership fee (taxes) and then get many times more "savings" (services) in return? The stores are still making a profit on the merchandise. So, you're still paying more than is necessary ... just as the government is only returning a fraction in services for the revenue collected. The rest is syphoned off or wasted. It would be better if we could keep more of our assets and help ourselves.

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chris

5:37 pm on Friday, January 4, 2013

I wonder how much pork the Dems managed to cram into this bill to take care of thier friends.

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George

5:57 pm on Friday, January 4, 2013

Chris, how come you never questioned how much Bush put in the $60 billion Katrina aid package?

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Joe T

6:30 pm on Friday, January 4, 2013

How much did they? Please provide the details. And are you saying because one group of knuckleheads does it, the other should? How about NO PORK. Stop spending money we don't have.

Remember it was Barry Obama who said that the debt was unpatriotic and irresponsible.

The way Obama does it is to get out his Bank of China credit card and run up these debts. It's irresponsible. It's unpatriotic.

Yeah, I know except when you get yours, it's COOL!

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Tim

6:52 pm on Friday, January 4, 2013

google

cost of the iraq war

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marylou

12:12 pm on Saturday, January 5, 2013

Yes,George,and it was approve in 10 days.

Joe R

6:04 pm on Friday, January 4, 2013

All these bills have pork in them, it's the only way that they can get passed, no matter the party. It's got GOP pork, too. And this has been going on for a very long time, nothing new. I get the impression that many of the commenters are telling the victims of natural diasters to go to hell and to beg for charity. Many generous people have indeed been charitable and helpful but it does not begin to address the needs of the people in areas that have practically been erased from the earth. R. Yates, I didn't know FEMA was unconstitutional. So Article one, section 8 is just garbage?

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Jay Gee

6:27 pm on Friday, January 4, 2013

@JOE R.........THANK YOU, VERY WELL SAID....................YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY ON POINT CONCERNING THOSE WHO HAVE ATTEMPTED TO HELP, AND ALTHOUGH SOME ARE GOING BEYOND TO HELP, IT'S TRUE, THE VICTIMS ARE BEING TOSSED INTO A BLACK HOLE AND SENT TO HELL.....WHAT CAN WE DO.....NOTHING...!

Peter M. Clausen III

6:09 pm on Friday, January 4, 2013

Why doesn't the governor follow up on his promises and get the insurance companies to pay up. I've been waiting two months, still nothing, and FEMA won't pay if you have insurance.

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Skitch

7:00 pm on Monday, January 7, 2013

@ Peter. The insurance carriers are only servicing carriers. They collect the premuims and handle the claims/payments. However the program is still run by the federal govt. Your claim still has to be serviced and handled by a certified flood adjuster which is usually not an insurance company adjuster. The adjusters are certified by NFIP. The carriers cannot pay the claim until the flood adjuster turns in the paperwork to the carrier with the approval to pay the claim. If there is no money left in the program, guess what? You are not going to get paid until the pot is filled up again. Hence this is what Christie is out lobbying for.

Joe R

6:27 pm on Friday, January 4, 2013

Yates certainly does sound like some extreme libertarian type or an Ayn Rand acolyte. The federal government is not allowed (it's unconstitutional?) to help and give aid to the victims of earthquakes, floods, hurricanes or tornadoes??? Utter nonsense.

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Joe R

7:49 pm on Friday, January 4, 2013

Amazing, the GOPers from NJ, NY and CT all of a sudden believe in big government when their tushes are in a sling. I am thankful that they are fighting for their residents, as it should be but there is an element of hypocrisy considering that the GOP has been taken over by crazed far right wing tea party types who don't believe government should do anything but drop bombs on third world countries. If there's a natural disaster, just let charity take care of it. Unreal!

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Mister B

10:17 pm on Friday, January 4, 2013

Joe, you're a knucklehead. While Christie is a Republican, both Andrew Cuomo (NY) and Dan Malloy (CT) are Democrats. Save us the political rancor when clearly it doesn't apply to these three governors. They come from opposite sides of the political spectrum but seem to have the interests of their state's residents first.

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Steven A Smith

8:25 am on Saturday, January 5, 2013

republicons are hypocrites who are out of touch with reality live in denial

Jim schwarz

9:26 pm on Friday, January 4, 2013

I think $60 billion is too much money.How much of it is stolen for bureucratic shirt and tie people.Personal property insurance has already covered a lot of home damage costs, in all states .10 billion sounds about right.Do your homework.The money has to come from taxes,on everyone else.

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Frank S

5:42 pm on Monday, January 7, 2013

60 billion is too much?
what about this George W Bush spending does not include costs for the Iraq War

Sal

11:38 pm on Friday, January 4, 2013

People paying for Flood Insurance each year have no real guarantee that they will be paid if they suffer flood related losses because there is no money set aside for the payments and if you read the article you know that Congress had to Vote on and Approve the money for the flood insurance coverage to be paid out to the policy holders. If Congress did not approve it___then people who paid for Flood Insurance would not have gotten paid.___________________________in other words___people pay for flood ins. yet there is no guarantee of loss coverage reimbursements.
The U.S. House of Representatives approved a measure Friday afternoon allowing the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) to borrow $9.7 billion to pay insurance claims made by victims of Hurricane Sandy.

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MtownLifer

11:40 pm on Friday, January 4, 2013

Joe R,
Maybe you're not aware that as the Gov. stated, NJ consistently sends to the Fed Gov't. much more in taxes than is ever returned, unlike many other states who are the benefactors of NJ's high federal taxes. So, now it's our time of need.

As for your GOP vs big government comment, you got it wrong. It's the 62% of the federal budget going to entitlments that the GOP complains about, not disaster aid.

Now that Obama won his "hit the rich" tax which will cover six days of gov't. spending, please let me know how he plans to pay down our 1.6 trillion deficit. Better yet, how will he pay down our 16.4 trillion national debt? You have about two months to figure that out before our credit rating drops, and interest rates fly while loans die.

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Steven A Smith

8:28 am on Saturday, January 5, 2013

gee I wonder how many republicons who complain about entitlements also receive SS and Medicare?
I wonder how many republicons who claim to be against big govt are now waiting on their fema application

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Steven A Smith

8:30 am on Saturday, January 5, 2013

How about whos gonna pay for Bush wars?
How about you take a look at the Tax rates under ST Ronnie?
and you aint rich so you dont need to worry about the 1%

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John

12:33 pm on Sunday, January 6, 2013

@Steven, your wrong about S/S, the government employees do not get that, they have there own pension plan....and they do not get Medicare so your wrong on both things....

Joe R

11:54 pm on Friday, January 4, 2013

The knucklehead award belongs to Scott Garrett (R-5th District), not me. Scott seems to have lost sight of the fact that his job during a crisis like this is to help his constituents recover.
He's one of 11 members of Congress who voted against aid for victims of Hurricane Katrina in 2005.
In November, he was the only NJ congressman from either party who refused to sign a letter urging House leaders to provide prompt aid to Sandy victims.

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Sal

12:01 am on Saturday, January 5, 2013

President Bush and his Republican cohorts had no problem spending $87 Billion to rebuild Iraq. Obviously Republicans love Muslims more than their fellow Americans.
Mr. Bush's request for $87 billion was on the high end of what Congress had expected. In recent days, administration officials have said they anticipated asking Congress for an additional $60 billion to $80 billion for the fiscal year that begins Oct. 1. The financing, if approved by Congress, would significantly add to the federal government's deficit, which is approaching $500 billion this fiscal year.

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Sal

12:10 am on Saturday, January 5, 2013

The Republican lost 18 seats in Congress and they lost 2 seats in the Senate in the Nov. elections. Oh and they also lost the Presidential race. The American people are waking up and in another 4 years the Republican party will become meaningless, insignificant and powerless as they lose control of Congress also. Democrats are not defeating those Republicans, instead they are defeating themselves and shooting themselves in the foot.

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Joe R

12:33 am on Saturday, January 5, 2013

MtownLifer, maybe you are not aware that every tin horn Goper echoes and parrots this tired old bromide >>limited government and personal responsibilty<< 24/7 all year into eternity. >>limited government and personal responsibilty<< really means and is code for let's get rid of Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid and anything that helps the working class. Bush partly gutted FEMA, heckuva job Brownie, and put incompetents in charge because the GOP doesn't believe in government so they defund it and sabotage it at every opportunity.

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Steven A Smith

8:34 am on Saturday, January 5, 2013

Funny how they dont believe in big govt but believe in vaginal probes and legit rape

Pasternack ack ack

2:46 am on Saturday, January 5, 2013

Joe R - Rs don't believe in government until they need it. Also they only care about deficits and debt when they are out of power and can use them to beat up the Ds (see Reagan's and Bush's and Nixon's full embrace of deficit spending, Cheney's famous declaration that deficits don't matter, etc.). If Rs were sincere about the deficit and debt they'd support cuts in defense spending, would not have campaigned this cycle on "not cutting one penny from Medicare", and, of course would cut spending and reduce the debt when they are in charge. They do none of that. The fact is that Ds, since after Carter, have been by far the more fiscally responsible party.

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Jay Gee

3:31 am on Saturday, January 5, 2013

GEE, JAY HAS LEARNED SO MUCH FROM THOSE WHO ARE SO KNOWLEDGEABLE, SO HOW ABOUT NOT FIGHTING EACH OTHER. EXPLAINING THE FACTS AS YOU ALL HAVE. PLEASE FEEL FREE TO KEEP THE DISCUSSION GOING. I HOPE SOMEONE WILL GIVE A RAT'S .........BECAUSE IT'S ABOUT TIME THAT THEY SHOULD.

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MTBottle

8:21 am on Saturday, January 5, 2013

I don't believe those that voted against the "Sandy Aid" did so because they did not want to help those in need, I think they voted against the "Pork" that filled the bill. For example:
$58.8 million for forest restoration on private land.
$197 million “to… protect coastal ecosystems and habitat impacted by Hurricane Sandy.”
$10.78 billion for public transportation, most of which is allocated to future construction and improvements, not disaster relief.
$17 billion for wasteful Community Development Block Grants (CDBG), a program that has become notorious for its use as a backdoor earmark program.
$8 million to buy cars and equipment for the Homeland Security and Justice departments
$2 million for the Smithsonian Institution to repair museum roofs in DC
$150 million for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration to dole out to fisheries in Alaska.
Why not just a relief bill that helps those effected.....Is it that hard to do? I guess.....

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Jay Gee

3:17 am on Sunday, January 6, 2013

WHAT AMOUNT IS LEFT FOR THE SUFFERING VICTIMS OF THE STORM? ANY?

westfieldmom

8:35 am on Saturday, January 5, 2013

Where is the money from the 12-12-12 concert? No mention of that anywhere.

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Joey Bagdano

9:36 am on Saturday, January 5, 2013

Im not sure but I think woodys restaurant got that and he's doling it out on an as needed basis.

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coolerhead

10:19 am on Saturday, January 5, 2013

The 12-12-12 Concert, Robin Hood Fund, Red Cross etc. are private charities that are not affiliated with the government. Why would any information be provided in this story? If you want that information, contact those charities and ask them. Maybe some investigative reporter will check these charities out, but not as part of a story regarding Federal Funds for disaster relief. Start a new thread somewhere but please stay on topic.

Steven A Smith

8:55 am on Saturday, January 5, 2013

Senate approves additional $29 billion bill for relief, rebuilding
Fri, 12/23/2005 - 02:31 — admin

WASHINGTON (AP) - Overwhelming Senate passage of a bill bearing $29 billion to help rebuild after Hurricane Katrina has put the massive aid package a step away from being sent to President Bush for his signature.
Nearly four months after the maelstrom devastated New Orleans and much of the nearby Gulf Coast, the House was expected to vote Thursday on a final defense bill containing the storm assistance. The aid is mostly for reconstructing damaged buildings and aiding battered businesses and homeowners.
The Senate approved the measure 93-0 Wednesday night after the aid became entangled with - and then finally disengaged from - a fight over an unrelated effort to open oil drilling in an Alaska wildlife refuge.
Sen. Trent Lott, R-Miss., reminded lawmakers of victims living in tents and trailers after losing nearly all possessions in the Aug. 29 storm

Hypocrites? you betcha poor republicon states? you betcha
are republicons idiots? you betcha

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J.Dicarlo

9:02 am on Saturday, January 5, 2013

All that money you listed that Bush supposedly spent (Congress was controlled by Dems) is peanuts compared to the $6 trillion Barry has added in his short 4 years. Yep, all us republicans are losers.....but its weird how must of us pay the bills, no?

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Steven A Smith

9:20 am on Saturday, January 5, 2013

ya might wanna check who controlled congress in 2005 but hey you took a shot

Joey Bagdano

9:05 am on Saturday, January 5, 2013

Three simple points 1) Crispy Creme is not a republican he is very much a liberal democrat (except when it comes to teachers); 2) Sandy Bill loaded with pork (simple google search confirms this (just dont select media matters or MSNBC); 3) If Crispy cvreme was so angry at Boehner why not angry at Harry Reid for not allowing vote on Sandy Bill?

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Jay Gee

3:21 am on Sunday, January 6, 2013

CRSIPY CREME? LOL...I WONDER MYSELF. IS HE OR ISN'T HE? I THINK MAYBE HE'LL RUN, AND MAYBE WIN, AS THE FIRST INDEPENDENT IN FOREVER....IF SHE REMAINS ILL, THAT IS. :)

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Rubbery Fenders

2:03 pm on Sunday, January 6, 2013

Please don't upset the speaker, he reads this blog. You don't want another Crying Boner, do you?

westfieldmom

9:08 am on Saturday, January 5, 2013

Give a man a fish and he will eat for the day.
Give a man a welfare check, a free cell phone, food stamps, section 8 housing, a six-pack of beer and he will vote Democrat for the rest of his life.

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Steven A Smith

9:19 am on Saturday, January 5, 2013

a free cell phone was a Bush thing
Kind of like invading Iraq based on LIES
didja see the Bush Brownie Katrina Video priceless

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wookfish

9:24 am on Saturday, January 5, 2013

Bush..Bush...Bush, can't you liberal dems come up with anything better..purple lips did nothing for FOUR years already..when are you going to start blaming him?

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Jay Gee

3:26 am on Sunday, January 6, 2013

@WOOK.........FISH...........................................BUSH, BUSH, BUSH, BUSH, BUSH.
NO, THERE IS NOTHING TO COME UP WITH. HE TORE THE COUNTRY DOWN TO NOTHING. NOT THROUGH HIS OWN EFFORTS. HE WAS THE PUPPET, THE MARIONETTE ON THE STRING. HE WAS THE DRY DRUNK THAT COST THIS NATION EVERYTHING. THERE IS NO OTHER. THERE IS NO ONE ELSE TO BLAME. HE SPOKE FOR CHENEY. HE DID THE BIDDING OF THE PEOPLE IN CHARGE. THOSE WHO ALSO WERE IN CHARGE OF HIS FATHER, WHO WAS A LITTLE MORE INTELLIGENT, I SUPPOSE. BUT, THAT WAS THEN. THIS IS NOW. IF THE GUY IN OFFICE IS GOING TO FIX IT, AND I DON'T THINK THERE'S ENOUGH TIME FOR HIM TO DO THAT, HE'S GONNA NEED LOTS OF SUPPORT. I DON'T HAPPEN TO LOVE HIM, BUT RIGHT NOW, HE'S IT!

Robert Costello

9:46 am on Saturday, January 5, 2013

weakfish. Our President, Barack Obama does get the blame. He is to blame for the death of Osama bin Ladin. He ended the colonial war in Irak. He gets the blame for the survival of GM, indeed for the very survival of our economy. He gets the blame for national health care policy and immigration reform (increased deportations and border patrols, combined with a path to citizenship for veterans and children).
He doesn't get the blame for the crazy actions of either al Qaeda nor the Republican Party - the two grave threats to American freedom and prosperity. He isn't to blame for the crash of 2008 or the Bush2 Depression that followed. Nor is he to blame for 9/11.

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Steven A Smith

9:49 am on Saturday, January 5, 2013

Hey wook
what is the republicon plan for paying off the 2 unfunded wars and medicare part d plus interest

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Donkey Tales

11:35 am on Saturday, January 5, 2013

How can the wars be unfunded? Do we owe the military personnel money? Dumb a$$ liberal soundbites.

What is unfunded is Medicare which in 2013 will spend $820B on revenues of $220B creating a $600B deficit for just one year.

BTW dummy, if Med part D is "unfunded' why don't the Jack$$ party just repeal it? They have the votes don't they.

Didn't think so.....talk is cheap for liberals when you tax, borrow and spend with no care in the world.

Look MA! Barry Hussien borrowed $170B in NOVEMBER more than Bush borrowed in 2007 when the wars were "unfunded"

http://www.fms.treas.gov/mts/mts1112.pdf

$16.5 trillion in debt and not a problem solved.......ah Democrats!! Special !!

Steven A Smith

9:50 am on Saturday, January 5, 2013

If not for Mommy and Daddy
how would Bristol Palin have not been a welfare queen

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Gary Junstrom

4:35 pm on Saturday, January 5, 2013

How do you know that genius? Can't you liberals come up with anything new? Bush, Sarah Palin, Fox News - how pathetic to use that to distract from Obama's abysmal record.

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Jay Gee

3:34 am on Sunday, January 6, 2013

@GARY: COME UP WITH BETTER THAN, HMM, LESSEE...HMMM....OH, UMMM "PICK YOURSELVES UP BY YOUR BOOTSTRAPS" (SEAN HANNITY & CO).........UMMMM, "GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, PEOPLE DO" ( NRA CRAP).......AND ALL THE ISM'S BY THE PUBBY GROUPS. TEA PARTIES. GO TO A TEA PARTY, PLEASE! PALIN DOES HAVE TO BE ONE OF THE MOST IDIOTIC CHARACTERS OF THE DECADE...THAT'S A SHAME. REALLY A SHAME. I GUESS INTELLIGENT REPUBLICAN'S DO NOT WANT TO BE IN THE FOREFRONT. THEY PUT UP THE DUMBEST PEOPLE TO APPEAR TO BE LEADERS.

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Joey Bagdano

9:59 am on Sunday, January 6, 2013

Would you care to explain how Sarah Pailin is dumb? Did she say there were 57 states in the US? Is that not the dumbest effin thing ever said by an American? Yet not one of the phony media has played it. Its a clip on youtube that soon will be erased once Obama's minions in charge of transaprency get to it.

westfieldmom

9:59 am on Saturday, January 5, 2013

I thought Barry was going to end the wars, close Gitmo, yadda, yadda, yadda. Actions speak louder than words. He needs to DO something instead traveling back and forth to Hawaii on my dime, playing golf. It's funny how he's exempt from Obamacare, but everyone else gets put in the pot. Why is that?

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Joe R

10:53 am on Saturday, January 5, 2013

He did end the Iraq war. I agree, we should have been out of Afghanistan a long time ago when Bush was president. I certainly don't approve of everything that Obama has done or failed to do but at least he's not a crazed right wing ideologue like Rand Paul or a shape shifter like Romney. Not only should Gitmo be closed but we should get the heck out and give the land back to Cuba. We have been "leasing" the land and port facilities from Cuba for more than 100 years, before Castro was even born. It's really a colony with a fig leaf of legality. We pay "rent" for Gitmo but Castro refuses the money because he wants us out. We should be out, we don't need it any more. But this has been going on for more than 100 years and over many presidencies, both parties, D and R.
How does wookfish get away with using that racist term, "purple lips?"

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Steven A Smith

11:27 am on Saturday, January 5, 2013

Best Answer

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According to the Senate Historical Office, since the president took office, there have been a record number of filibusters; Republicans in the senate united to block nearly every major proposal that the Obama administration made, rather than letting such proposals receive an up-or-down vote on the floor of the senate, as used to be the custom. By some counts, there have been more than one hundred filibusters since 2009 (counting the refusal to confirm judges, that number rises even further); these filibusters included bills or proposals that Republicans previously had supported.

Steven A Smith

11:28 am on Saturday, January 5, 2013

Best Answer

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Among the bills Republicans filibustered were:
H.R. 12 - Paycheck Fairness Act
H.R. 448 -- Elder Abuse Victims Act
H.R. 466 - Wounded Veteran Job Security Act
H.R. 515 - Radioactive Import Deterrence Act
H.R. 549 -- National Bombing Prevention Act
H.R. 577 - Vision Care for Kids Act
H.R. 626 - Federal Employees Paid Parental Leave Act
H.R. 1029 - Alien Smuggling and Terrorism Prevention Act
H.R. 1168 -- Veterans Retraining Act
H.R. 1171 - Homeless Veterans Reintegration Program Reauthorization
H.R. 1293 -- Disabled Veterans Home Improvement and Structural Alteration Grant Increase Act
H.R. 1429 -- Stop AIDS in Prison Act
H.R.5281 -- DREAM Act
S.3985 -- Emergency Senior Citizens Relief Act
S.3816 -- Creating American Jobs and Ending Offshoring Act
S.3369 -- DISCLOSE Act, A bill to provide for additional disclosure requirements for corporations, labor organizations, Super PACs and other entities
S.2237 -- Small Business Jobs and Tax Relief Act
S.2343 -- Stop the Student Loan Interest Rate Hike Act
S.1660 -- American Jobs Act of 2011
S.3457 -- Veterans Jobs Corps Act

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Gary Junstrom

4:38 pm on Saturday, January 5, 2013

And all because the liberal Democrats loaded them with a bunch of pork that would have sent the debt skyrocketing. You guys trying to guilt people into passing bills with friendly sounding names is getting old.

Spooner

11:46 am on Saturday, January 5, 2013

Keep listening to guys like Congressman Peter King for one, who will flip flop and say anything faster than you can shake a stick at. Politicians are liars...and with their deceptions...fraudsters. That FEMA bill put forth by the fiscal hawk Republican Scott Garrett is a joke.All it does is raise(amend) the authorization amount again. . .but the fine print(which is another joke in itself as you will can read) said it all. . . In that "Pay As You Go Act of 2010". . . you would think that this means that either new revenue sources has to be enacted to pay for the authorization to be dispersed or it's being dispersed from existing revenue. But when you read the fine print, FEMA like a myriad of other expenditures are exempt, and that amount will just be added to the national debt.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/111/hjres45/text

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Ann Powers

12:15 pm on Saturday, January 5, 2013

Realization: The US is running out of $$. The flood insurance fund is tapped out, and FEMA is close behind. Still, the DC pols keep spending like there is no tomorrow. Funny thing is, if Moody's and other rating agencies get serious, tomorrow will be very ugly. If it isn't already.....
Reminder of the day: When everyone was complaining about slow Katrina aid, and Bush was accused of "not caring" about black people, the feds gave everyone $2,000 to ease "political consciences" (What an oxymoron!!!). It wasn't right then and wouldn't be right now, but I was just saying.............Funny (not) how memories selectively fade.

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Joe R

12:28 pm on Saturday, January 5, 2013

@Donkey Tales: "How can the wars be unfunded?" Bush's wars, Medicare Part D were unfunded in the sense that he didn't raise revenue to pay for them, he put them on the national credit card, he added them to the deficits. Bush was the only president to cut taxes during a time of war. He put all these trillions of dollars to the deficits, he used borrowed money to pay for all those things. He didn't raise taxes to pay for these things, just the opposite. He didn't cut spending in other areas to help fund the wars and Medicare Part D, he just borrowed money and left this disaster for future presidents. Obama got left holding the bag for Bush's spending spree. I hope that explains it. Bush was like some shopaholic putting everything on their credit card. Wow, 2 of my comments were deleted, I wonder why?

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Joey Bagdano

12:29 pm on Saturday, January 5, 2013

Yay Obama, record unemployment, most spending by US govt ever, least transparent administration ever (Benghazi, fast furious...no reporting no press conferences), major money to unions over others, and all the while he attacks the rich, Buffet and Hollywood get tax breaks. Meanwhile, anyone see his home in Hawaii, between him and liberal icon Fat Al Gore, I dont know who makes out better from ignorant ill informed democratic voters.

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Joe R

12:37 pm on Saturday, January 5, 2013

Fat Al Gore???? What about Chris Christie? He makes Gore look like an anorexic model. Major money to unions? Utter nonsense. The Obama administration is crawling with rich capitalists. You should love Buffett and Hollywood since you worship rich people.

MtownLifer

2:40 pm on Saturday, January 5, 2013

It is literally a waste of time to make a valid point on this blog without continual finger pointing against one view versus another. So, I will retreat. Everything that is wrong with this country is Bush's and the republicans fault. Obama and his democrat machine are the real heros. They will save the country, eliminate unemployment, retire the debt, and make all the poor wealthy by taking from the greedy rich that which they don't deserve.
They had control of congress or the whitehouse for six of the last eight years, and deserve another ten to get it right. Of course, they had no hand in either war, no fault for our debt, no hand in our unemployment rate, and had nothing to do with the foreign affairs debacle. Therefore they have no responsibility whatsoever for the absolute mess we are in today. Those low-life republicans caused it all. The dems were on lunch break, not their fault.
Please, beloved democrat heros, come and save us from ourselves. Right all of our wrongs and show us the way. Stop the enevitable debt cliff that will occur by March, keep hiring govt. workers to solve employment; keep spending and borrowing to bail out the poor; keep the pork and entitlments flowing, help the unions take over our workforce, and be sure not to forget to disarm the stupid public. With a little luck you can make us just like the rest of the world. Here's a tip; If it doesn't work, you can always blame the republicans. Hell, the media is.

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Joe R

4:02 pm on Saturday, January 5, 2013

"......help the unions take over our workforce..." Utter, ridiculous nonsense. After 30 plus years of aggressive union busting, only 11.8% of the total workforce is even unionized. In the private sector, 93% of the workforce is NON-UNION, as in no unions. This is no accident, it's union busting backed by huge massive corporate funds, The US Chamber of Commerce, Cato, Heritage, AEI and all the rest of the phoney baloney right wing think tanks that propagandize against unions 24/7 for decades. Why the heck are you so against workers forming unions for better working comditions, any benefits and yes, better pay? The far right wing dream, no unions so workers can be treated like indentured jerks.

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Gary Junstrom

4:41 pm on Saturday, January 5, 2013

@joe R -and that's 11.8 percent too much. Unions are killing this country. They helped Obama steal the election.

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Penny Lane

5:21 pm on Saturday, January 5, 2013

Unions should take over this way the workers wouldnt live in red states that are where the 47 % ers live

Joe T

2:59 pm on Saturday, January 5, 2013

@joe R you couldn't be further from the truth. in fact, only Obama and Biden got to vote on spending and not Bush. Congress appropriates money and spends it not POTUS. They especially Dems who took over on 1/1/07 are responsible for reckless spending on welfare, entitlements etc

In 07, we had record income tax revenues and a budget deficit of 170B.

But enough of the trying to fight about the past. If Obammy and the Dems don't like the spending or the debt especially when we are out of Iraq, then why don't they cut the spending? Where are the spending cuts? Why is spending GOING UP?

If Med Part D is bad, why won't the Dems eliminate it? You know why because they like it and as long as they can blame somene else for what they want to hand out its better.

do some reading and learn the numbers

http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2012/10/federal-spending-by-the-numbers-2012

the numbers don't lie

Medicare/Medicaid spending in 2013 is 50 billion more than 2012 and 200 B higher than it was last time Bush was in office. It is largely unfunded and is responsible for 50% of the budget deficit annually.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/omb/budget/fy2013/assets/tables.pdf

here's Barry's own budget = table S4 Medicare/Medicaid spending is higher than its revenues. That means deficits.

But let's blame Bush if it makes you sleep better.

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Penny Lane

5:31 pm on Saturday, January 5, 2013

Joe

Did Bush invade Iraq based on Lies?
Did he raise revenue to pay for it?
Did he kill Bin Ladin?
Did the tax cuts work as intended to create jobs?
How will the wars be paid for? Growth of wal marts? In 07, we had record income tax revenues and a budget deficit of 170B" thats because the cost of the wars were not placed on the books until Black Jesus became president
I guess you missed the 700 k job loss per month under Bush
lol "
record number of filibusters under the repukes in the house

whats the republicon solution for an older america? paul ryans private insurance lol
mitts magic underwear? how about we all get the same plan as congress?

any idea Joe what the tax rates were under St Ronnie?

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Chief Wahoo

5:36 pm on Saturday, January 5, 2013

PUBLIC unions are the problem......big difference !!!!!!!!!!!

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Joe R

7:17 pm on Saturday, January 5, 2013

Public unions are the probelm? The Sandy Hook teachers who gave up their lives for the children were public union employees. All those public union employees saved many lives at that school and yet they get slimed by knee-jerk union haters. The police, fire fighter, EMT and Port Authority Police heroes of 9/11 were all public union employees. They saved thousands of lives and yet they get bashed by ignorant right wing fools.

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Monk

6:37 am on Sunday, January 6, 2013

There is no logical reason to attribute bravery of government workers to union membership. It is simply a coincidence. To use tragedies to advocate for budget-busting union benefits is pretty sickening. Advocating for budget-busting union benefits under any circumstances is just plain irresponsible.

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REALLY?

8:53 pm on Sunday, January 6, 2013

Pleasssssssssse!!! Get a grip! There was a few Sandy Hook teachers who were heroic and others hid under the desk...So what??? Obviously the teachers from CT. are not NJ teachers. Jersey teachers would be using their students as human shields. At one time a had the pleasure of working with Spineless Unkind Jersey teachers.

Penny Lane

10:18 pm on Saturday, January 5, 2013

what pigs

Republicans who captured the House last month in part on the strength of a promise to rein in government spending have tapped a veteran lawmaker known as the "prince of pork" to head the powerful House Appropriations Committee. And the decision's not sitting so well among some conservatives.

Rep. Harold "Hal" Rogers, who earned the "pork" nickname by steering hundreds of millions of federal dollars to projects in his rural district in Kentucky over a 30-year career in Congress, will chair the 60-member Appropriations Committee, the panel responsible for disbursing more than $1 trillion in non-entitlement-program dollars every year

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/12/10/gop-taps-prince-pork-lead-committee-overseeing-federal-spending/#ixzz2HA4sK8ka

and that my friends is from fox
cut the military budget
end all foreign aid

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John Eric Mangino

10:58 am on Sunday, January 6, 2013

Watch Face the Nation This morning . There has been no mention now of the Jan 15 vote on Sandy relief the subject . Republicans waging war on Debt Limits , Not one word since the 9 Billion approvals . Ocean County infrastructure is damaged the waterways polluted with thousand of tons of debris , Homeowners are in purgatory right now , Insurance company and mortgage companies are now playing the waiting game not releasing money to repair homes, Municipalities across the board that where already at poor houses door ard now so far in the hole from this storm .

They voted that the speaker back into house leader even after he shunned all Sandys Victim, Republican party need to be cleaned out of all the tea party corporate interests Our governor probably the only republican left that truly was the old glory republican party Is only guy on our side . Lets hope we never loss him . And thats from a democrat
In this country we have the option of change and change is needed and the first change is legislation that one removes lobbyist as a business, Two only allow three months of Air time on TV and Mandatory free airtime at that limit it to 30 minutes a month . And Three any Disaster related bill is hands off stand alone bill. Same for education , Special services. Fire police etc .

We need to rebuild Washington Just like our Beaches from the ground up .

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John Eric Mangino

3:49 pm on Sunday, January 6, 2013

Add 50 0n the 50 asked for then the coast will be safe again until then more and more events like this are coming and on a more regular basis < I can only laugh at the countess Boat owners that out buying new boats with there new found moneys when theres no where to run Them other than the open ocean , Hers the Problem I have searched and searched
for one republican Bill that has been written that is humanitarian in any way at all . I cant find one . Other than The Sandy bill and they botched that .

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REALLY?

8:58 pm on Sunday, January 6, 2013

All these politicians who are crying. All these homeowners who are crying. I could almost bet none of them will use the money in what was it was intended for. Typical B.S.

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Shelly Ricardo

7:02 am on Monday, January 7, 2013

I am physically ill listening to every single politician. They are all disgusting con artists and used car salesmen. There are no real leaders anymore. Look at the divisiveness they have sown and are now reaping. A nation divided such as our surly cannot stand. This country is doomed.

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The Situation

9:10 am on Monday, January 7, 2013

Wow, looks like the Intelligence police skipped this thread...now i know what a discussion on the House and Senate floor looks like. Nice sampling people.

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Joey Bagdano

9:15 am on Monday, January 7, 2013

You think thats bad, take the most retarded one and you've got the White House too.

Robert Yates

10:04 am on Monday, January 7, 2013

No one posting here has provided the wording in the constitution that permits congress to spend money on isolated disaster relief. It is unconstitutional. Undeclared preemptive wars, due process free incarceration and killing, FEMA, SS, medicare, medicaid and any program without footing in the constitution are all unconstitutional. Get out the document, read it and justify your position. I love how you demean asking for charity and then laud stealing the money from fellow countrymen. For all of you partisans out there, both parties are terrible and they both regularly violate the constitution. This is why we are drowning in debt and this is why we are slaves to a leviathan government, the Chinese and the devaluation of the dollar. The Brits experienced the same thing post WWII; let's just hope the US can remain at least a 2nd world country like the good old English once Chinese/Asian financial ascendency occurs.

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Spooner

10:48 am on Monday, January 7, 2013

Maybe you forgot to read the Preamble to the Constitution...It starts off with:"We the people...to insure domestic Tranquility...promote the general Welfare...

So how are you following the Constitution...by disturbing the domestic Tranquility and preaching against promoting the general Welfare?

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Paul J. DiBartolo

12:04 pm on Monday, January 7, 2013

Hey Spooner, feel free at any time to explain what the heck you are talking about.

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Frank S

12:28 pm on Monday, January 7, 2013

Mr Yates

tell us how you feel about Bush and Iraq

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Robert Yates

1:17 pm on Monday, January 7, 2013

Frank S: did you read my last post? Bush unconstitutionally invaded Iraq. There was no declaration of war; there was no clear and present danger to the national security of the US, and the reasons provided turned out to be completely false. Does that answer your question? FYI: Katrina aid was unconstitutional too! Spooner: why were Congresses powers enumerated in Section 8 if all Congress needed to do anything they wanted was the preamble? Your reading is wrong. Sorry the government can't just do anything they want as long as they believe it is providing for the general welfare. Incidentally, Sandy aid is NOT providing for the general welfare; it is providing for the welfare of property owners on the Jersey shore, so your broad reading does not even work.

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Spooner

6:00 pm on Monday, January 7, 2013

Paul- take up the writing of the Constitution with the Founding Fathers. . .better yet perhaps go learn 18th Century English. . .It is wahat it said. . .maybe you should read Justice Joseph Story's Chapter VI(THE PREAMBLE) comments on the Constitution...

...here's his opening comment on "promoting the general Welfare:(1) The states separately would not possess the means (2) If they did possess the means, they would not possess the power to carry the appropriate measures into operation...Gee kind of explains how the Federal government; not the States, enacted SSI and Medicare...and the now the Affordable Care Act.

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Paul J. DiBartolo

8:22 am on Tuesday, January 8, 2013

Spooner, SSI and Medicare are essentially bankrupting us and our children as currently administered. I think we all know what ObamaCare will do to our healthcare system. How do you like your new health insurance rates? Of course, if you are a state worker or on the government dole you don't worry about that because you figure that chumps like me will keep paying your way. BTW, most of our Revolutionary War vets coming home refused government care...they were taken care of by families and churches. Make a better case for SSI and Medicare being guaranteed by the Constitution. That's actually the first time I've heard that argument...General Welfare...really?

Paul J. DiBartolo

12:02 pm on Monday, January 7, 2013

President Grover Cleveland (Democrat) took a stand against using tax money to fund an orphanage in NYC during a sever economic crisis. He said, "I will not be a party to stealing money from one group of citizens to give to another group of citizens. No matter what the need or apparent justification, once the coffers of the federal government are opened to the public, there will be no shutting them again. . . It is the responsibility of citizens to support their government. It is not the responsibility of government to support its citizens."
Additionally, he vetoed a bill seeking to appropriate $10,000 to purchase grain to be given to several drought-stricken Texas counties in 1887. His rationale, "Federal aid in such cases encourages the expectation of paternal care on the part of the government and weakens the sturdiness of our national character..." He went on to say that federal aid worked against the spirit of common brotherhood amongst Americans that would inspire us to help one another.

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Frank S

12:27 pm on Monday, January 7, 2013

Gotta love tea bagger Paul
"he vetoed a bill seeking to appropriate $10,000 to purchase grain to be given to several drought-stricken Texas counties in 1887. His rationale, "Federal aid in such cases encourages the expectation of paternal care on the part of the government and weakens the sturdiness of our national character..." He went on to say that federal aid worked against the spirit of common brotherhood amongst Americans that would inspire us to help one another" Tea bagger Paul wants his guns and his guberment SS check and medicare hes a pro lifer in favor of vaginal probes and legit rape cases forcing women to have the kid, hes a bible thumper them comes out with a beauty Republicons are hypocrites

Frank S

12:20 pm on Monday, January 7, 2013

US Government Pork Barrel Spending See full chart

Year Administration # Projects Cost

1991 George H Bush 546 $3.1 Billion
1992 George H Bush 892 $2.6 Billon
Total projects 1,438 Cost to taxpayers $5.7 Billion

1993 Bill Clinton 1,712 $6.6 Billion
1994 Bill Clinton 1,318 $7.8 Billion
1995 Bill Clinton 1,439 $10 Billion
1996 Bill Clinton 958 $12.5 Billion
1997 Bill Clinton 1,596 $14.5 Billion
1998 Bill Clinton 2,143 $13.2 Billion
1999 Bill Clinton 2,838 $12 Billion
2000 Bill Clinton 4,326 $17.7 Billion
Total projects 16,330 Cost to taxpayers $94.3 Billion

2001 George W Bush 6,333 $18.5 Billion
2002 George W Bush 8,341 $20.1 Billion
2003 George W Bush 9,362 $22.5 Billion
2004 George W Bush 10,656 $22.9 Billion
2005 George W Bush 13,997 $27.3 Billion
2006 George W Bush 9,963 $29 Billion
2007 George W Bush 2,658 $13.2 Billion
2008 George W Bush 11,610 $17.2 Billion
Total projects 72,920 Cost to taxpayers $170.7 Billion

Total All Projects 90,68 Total All Costs $270.7 Billion
* George W Bush spent 44.76% more than Bill Clinton- * George W Bush spending does not include costs for the Iraq War

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Monk

3:25 pm on Monday, January 7, 2013

And US Government Pork Barrel Spending is wrong no matter which Party holds the Presidency, Senate or House. So, what's your point? Are we supposed to keep looking the other way? Are we supposed to wait for the moment when the total for each Party is equal and then say, "We're even. Now stop." This is infantile. When a storm relief bill is packed with pork, it's a sign of government dysfunction, and we really cannot afford it any longer. The Grover Cleveland quote shows there was a time when elected officials had the right moral sensibilities when it came to taxing and spending the citizens' assets.

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Frank S

5:36 pm on Monday, January 7, 2013

talk about a waste of money

George W Bush spending does not include costs for the Iraq War

Joe R

4:45 pm on Monday, January 7, 2013

Libertarianism is already an extreme cult, there is no reasoning with libertarians, they have their dogma and they don't deviate from their narrow path. I've heard the libertarian and Ayn Rand robotic talking points for many years now so Robert Y's comments are nothing new to me. He blows off Article 1, section 8 (to provide for the general welfare) as if it was nothing, poof. Providing for the general welfare would include Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid and disaster aid. There is no enumerated right to marry in the Constitution, no right to travel and there's no mention of an air force. Though there are constitutional amendments that have expanded voting rights ( amendments that prohibit discrimination based on race (15th), sex (19th) and age (26th))
, there is no specific enumerated right to vote in the big C. The majority of the U.S. Supreme Court, in Bush v. Gore (2000), wrote, "The individual citizen has no federal constitutional right to vote for electors for the President of the United States." Scalia has said that there's no right to privacy in the Constitution. On Fox News with Chris Wallace: “What about the right to privacy that the court found in 1965?” Wallace pressed.
“There’s no right to privacy in the Constitution — no generalized right to privacy,” Scalia insisted.
“Well, in the Griswold case, the court said there was,” Wallace pointed out.
“Yeah, it did,” Scalia agreed. “And that was wrong.”

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Frank S

5:48 pm on Monday, January 7, 2013

Let them eat cake, right Paul?
President Grover Cleveland (Democrat) took a stand against using tax money to fund an orphanage in NYC during a sever economic crisis. He said, "I will not be a party to stealing money from one group of citizens to give to another group of citizens. No matter what the need or apparent justification, once the coffers of the federal government are opened to the public, there will be no shutting them again

wonder if Paul posted this right after he left church

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Paul J. DiBartolo

8:14 am on Tuesday, January 8, 2013

"Let them eat cake..."
Who said that, Frank S? Grover Cleveland was a man who thought is was responsible to spend only what you had. Let me ask you this, Frank, exactly how much money should the government borrow to alleviate your potential suffering? At this point we are about $16.5 trillion dollars in the hole and some people seem to think there's no bottom to the hole we are digging for our grandchildren.

"wonder if Paul posted this right after he left church..."
Your attempts to hurl personal insults are telling of your true character. I know it's difficult for someone like you, Frank S., but try to stay on topic.

Southide W

5:55 pm on Monday, January 7, 2013

@ Joe R, the real cults are the traditional Democrat and Republican parties. Slaves to party platforms with NO room for deviation. It is actually the Libertarians who accept logic, rational behavior and thinking, the power of an individual to become who he/she can be, and how they can be a part of the greater good. Government just stands in the way, creates hurdles, and impedes growth through archaic and intrusive rules and regulations.

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Joe R

7:38 pm on Monday, January 7, 2013

Libertarians to the hurricane victims: "Drop dead." Libertarians to disabled senior citizens; "Drop dead." What's their genius solution: go begging for charity. Sure, like charities will cover all the costs of seniors in nursing homes year after year after year. The average nursing home costs $7,000 a month. Like charities will cover disabled people with kidney failure; dialysis costs $150,000 a year. But when Ayn Rand (who had a lot in common with libertarians) got old, she signed up for Social Security and Medicare. Libertarians are radical extremists, and not in the good sense of being radical or extremist. Libertarians to poor kids: drop dead or go begging for charity.

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jerseyswamps

4:11 am on Tuesday, January 8, 2013

Let me guess. You studied drama in school?

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Southide W

8:53 am on Tuesday, January 8, 2013

@ Joe, Libertarians are about taking control one one's own future, saving for one's own senior and end of life care. Since the New Deal, this has been driven out of us and we are relying more and more on government to support us and be our "father". Not everyone is successful at saving and I support having something in place for those in need, but not everyone is truly in need. Quite frankly, I bought my house as an investment an investment that I may need to sell one day to take care of my medical needs. Anyone (regardless of how they feel about it) should be free to take advantage of the benefits that they paid for, for Ayn Rand had a right to use Medicare and Social Security. Those who criticise them for taking advantage of it would be thrilled to take the funding they provided and spread it around to those who did not give as much. Sounds like you took a little drama in school yourself (but only got the bit roles).

Robert Costello

12:17 am on Tuesday, January 8, 2013

Gov't does not just stand in the way, South Westfieldlander. Gov't provides basic services like sewerage and roads. It is governmental over sight that allows air travel and food supplies for billions. You want tiny government, move to Haiti. Americans have voted to be part of the modern world.

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Southide W

8:47 am on Tuesday, January 8, 2013

Robert, you are naive. Some government is good, but government is bureacracy, compromise, slow, and focuses only on the surface. It does not address the root causes of issues or problems. Only to pacify and treat symptoms. Robert, we are taking a step backwards - a huge step bacwards because both sides do not want to invest in really understanding human nature.

Joe R

9:39 am on Tuesday, January 8, 2013

>>"Quite frankly, I bought my house as an investment an investment that I may need to sell one day to take care of my medical needs."<< Is that a joke, home and property values have plummeted. You think your home will cover your medical needs? A serious illness can cost hundreds of thousands of dollars and nursing home costs ($7k-$10K per month and up) can bankrupt most people in short order. But maybe you live in a mansion worth $10 million dollars? Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid have not made people dependent and less likely to save or plan for the future. This is what I mean about the libertarian BS quotient. About the only point of agreement I have with libertarians is about closing most of the military bases and no more wars of choice, no more unnecessary wars such as Vietnam and Iraq. And we should have been out of Afghanistan 7 years ago.

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Southide W

11:33 am on Tuesday, January 8, 2013

@ Joe R. Let me guess - you are one of those sheep who think that the government should take care of you from cradle to grave. You have a right to everything - the government pays for it. There are PLENTY of people in this country who believe and manage their lives believing that social security and medicare will take care of them. If it doesn't, the governement will. Then they complain about how they had to sell their home or move. Joe R., I do not think my home will cover everything, but MY home has not decreased in value from the time I bought it. You see, I didn;t buy anything above my means, what I could afford and I never relied on government to take care of me - I don't qualify for anything but what I earn through self-sufficiency and hard work.

I don;t buy anything I cannot afford and don't live above my means. I have to put kids through school and college on my own dime, not the taxpayers'. What is worse than any libertarian BS is the crap that the Dems and Reps sell. And it looks like you not only bought it, but are eating it, too.

mtwnres

12:24 pm on Tuesday, January 8, 2013

Speaking of Social Security.
How's everyone feeling about that nice increase in your tax bill ?
Aimed right at the heart of the middle class.
Thanks Pres.
Just another $2425.00/year to the government. What the hell, chump change.

Maximum yearly Social Security tax withholding rises
from $4,624.20 (4.2 percent on income up to $110,100) to
$7,049.40 (6.2 percent on income up to $113,700).

I guess the economy is doing so great there was no need to extend the rate cut.

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Southide W

1:13 pm on Tuesday, January 8, 2013

You bring up a good point. The increases in SS and Mediare taxes hit the middle class hard. That's ok though, because we can rely on SS and Medicare to take care of us when we grow old. We'll get a monthly pension and free quality healthcare. FREE!!!

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Joe R

2:00 pm on Tuesday, January 8, 2013

So South Westfielder and his ilk are saying that all or most of the people on Social Security and all or most of the people on Medicare are lazy good for nothing bums and moochers (the term of choice of these radical right wing freaks). He's saying none or most of those people (possibly some of his relatives are on SS and Medicare) ever saved, ever owned a home and are just moochers (the word of choice of libertarians and Randites). Only right wingers save money, only right wingers are the ones who have enough money that they will never ever need SS or Medicare because they are such economic scholars and business mavens. Talk about delusional twits. Only right wingers are self-sufficient and hard working; what an arrogant group of ideologues.

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Sherm

3:33 pm on Tuesday, January 8, 2013

any idea what the tax rates were under Saint Ronnie?

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Southide W

5:50 pm on Tuesday, January 8, 2013

Joe R, what is really sad is that when dealing with someone as angry and biased as you, there is not intelligent discourse. I never said anything like the comments you make. I didn;t call them lazy or bums. The left is selling us all a bunch of goods - that the government can take care of us better than we can ourselves. The foolish, like you are buying into the crap that social security and medicare will be there for you 100%. Tax everyone more for it, including the middle class who I still insist are being hit hard by teh tax increases for a benefits. The people in my family who are retired, while they receive social security have saved their butts off (they are part of teh greatest generation). They saved like hell, didn't buy anything they couldn't afford, and relied on their own brawn to get where they are. They saved and put in for their own retirement pensions and supplemental insurance plans. so don;t lecture me, you pig.

Robert Costello

3:08 pm on Tuesday, January 8, 2013

South Westfieldlander; please explain how Social Security works in your dreamland. Here, on Earth, you ONLY get social security after you and your employer pay in.

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Sherm

3:23 pm on Tuesday, January 8, 2013

Mr Costello seems south west was watching re runs of glen beck

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Southide W

5:38 pm on Tuesday, January 8, 2013

Robert, just educate yourself about the truth.

Sherm

3:15 pm on Tuesday, January 8, 2013

Mr Costello

Republicon s are out of touch with reality and live in denial
this is what they worry about dressed in tea party garb crying out for limited govt

A Virginia state senator gave Gov. Bob McDonnell (R) a new nickname on Tuesday, resurrecting a fight over McDonnell's support for legislation that would have mandated women have a transvaginal ultrasound before getting an abortion

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Sherm

3:18 pm on Tuesday, January 8, 2013

Rape and pregnancy controversies in United States elections, 2012

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During the 2012 United States election cycle, a series of controversies arose as a result of Republican Party candidates' statements regarding rape, pregnancy, abortion, and related topics.

The first and most widely covered controversy during this time surrounded Republican U.S. Representative Todd Akin of Missouri, who was the Republican nominee for a U.S. Senate seat. He stated that pregnancy from rape rarely occurs as a result of what he referred to as "legitimate rape." Akin's comments had a far-reaching political impact, changing a focus of campaigns across the country onto the so-called "War on Women."[1][2]

Following Akin's comments, there were additional controversies surrounding comments made by other socially conservative Republican candidates. The most notable of these was Indiana State Treasurer and U.S. Senate candidate Richard Mourdock, who said that pregnancy from rape was "something that God intended", triggering a nationwide controversy nearly on the scale of that resulting from Akin's comments.

A number of observers have identified Mourdock's and Akin's comments as a principal factor in their election losses.[3] The comments are also credited for having a larger national effect

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Sherm

3:20 pm on Tuesday, January 8, 2013

The ppll affected by Sandy need and deserve the help they need now
costofwars.com to see what the Bush admin has done to the ppl of this country

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NavyE9r

3:28 pm on Tuesday, January 8, 2013

The NJ and Ocean County GOP are out of touch with reality. 2 Republican Representitives sponsored the Stolen Valor act and it blazed though Congress and Senate, yet they supported Spodofora who is nationally recognized with Stolen Valor. Do a simple internet search of his name and Stafford Township and you'll see for yourself. A Republican Club and Council remained silent when he got exposed again just prior to elections. He went as far to exploit Congressman Runyan's (R-NJ) name with having to get "special access" to so called classified service records. You can call and find out the truth, but not one of the elephants would speak out and tell the truth. It's time for reform in politics and it starts with public awareness!

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Sherm

3:35 pm on Tuesday, January 8, 2013

Runyan's (R-NJ is he still alive? I thought he was stuck out in his "farm subsidy"
Whats he done for the folks affected by Sandy?
Hey you voted for him

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Joey Bagdano

3:43 pm on Tuesday, January 8, 2013

Ive talked to about 50 people who applied to FEMA for $. One success story. Rest = $0.00

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Southide W

5:42 pm on Tuesday, January 8, 2013

Obama sure came through for us didn't he? Our State senators really came through for us, didn't they? And to share the blame are those stupid Republican representatives - one of whom I am happy now that he lost the election is not VP.

NavyE9r

3:48 pm on Tuesday, January 8, 2013

In Stalingrad Stafford headed by Spodofora, if you expose the truth and challenge the gross improprieties you face the threat of legal actions or have your name dragged through the mud in the papers rather than have the character to admit it. For someone like Spodophony who says he's proud of his military service, he sure created an alter personna and ego that is very far fetched from the truth. I sure hope those blood votes he got were worth it as a lot of men and women fought, died and worked hard earning the title of Navy SEAL, Underwater Demolition Technician (UDT), Divers and combat service in Vietnam. Some even earned a Navy Expeditionary Medal doing so and none of thier records require 'special access'. For the record, the Navy Expeditionary Medal was not awarded to any Unit/Ship/Sub/Sailor in the entire US Navy in between 10 Aug 1962 and 8 Dec 1978. Spodofora served from 1966-1973. Not that hard to figure out. He exploited an administrative error by the Navy. It was his choice to allow and use this Medal as a matter or public record prior to the elections. He was responsible to ensure that Medal was represented correctly and used in a manner respectfully. He chose not to do so and lied to the Asbury Park Press reporter who published his interview. If it is acceptable for politicians to lie, it is the absolute right for Veterans to tell the truth. Stafford you have been duped for years by this charlatan!

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AStar Gazer

10:15 am on Wednesday, January 9, 2013

Tubby is waiting for the Federal cash so he can stash in the State budget via accounting tricks, that way he can avoid a tax increase this summer. Same old, same old.

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Samantha

12:52 pm on Thursday, March 14, 2013

When Clinton left office, this country was debt free with a surplus.

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Samantha

1:02 pm on Thursday, March 14, 2013

I'll be dead before I see a check.

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Joe T

1:15 pm on Thursday, March 14, 2013

Incorrect Samantha. The country was not debt free when Clinton left office.

Under Clinton, the national debt under his watch rose by $1.6 Trillion, a number Obama produces just about every 12 months.

It is true that the last few years his annual budgets did not have deficits (deficits not same as debt) thanks to a GOP congress that slowed spending to under 1% for a number of those years and a booming pre dot com burst economy.

Debt 1980 - $1T
Debt 1992- $4T
Debt 2000 - $5.6T
Debt 2008 - $9.6T
Debt today - $16.7T

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Samantha

1:57 pm on Thursday, March 14, 2013

Thanks Joe. Just had this debate with husband.

Remis McFemis

1:36 pm on Thursday, March 14, 2013

Samantha, as long as you don't have a job you will see plenty of checks. You know what they say, "You can't work when you're on unemployment"

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Samantha

2:02 pm on Thursday, March 14, 2013

Remis, my husband and I are both retired. I was referring to ins. claim checks.
There are alot of individuals who are unemployed. You shouldn't be so judgemental of other's that are less fortunate.

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